tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post2828156240122152747..comments2024-02-17T21:40:24.532-07:00Comments on Carol's Corner: #CYBERPD WRAPUPCarolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13294455230627182656noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-19264505811369222442012-08-01T15:03:56.479-06:002012-08-01T15:03:56.479-06:00Hi Carol,
I finished up my not-so-final thoughts!...Hi Carol, <br />I finished up my not-so-final thoughts! (I know we'll have more conversations to come!)<br /><br />Thanks for hosting and I'll be taking time later this week to respond.<br /><br />http://literacyzone.blogspot.com/2012/08/cyberpd-opening-minds-final-thoughts.html<br /><br />MichelleMichellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04822472844833732246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-21885146022654412282012-08-01T10:29:06.022-06:002012-08-01T10:29:06.022-06:00Carol,
Thanks so much for suggesting and hosting t...Carol,<br />Thanks so much for suggesting and hosting this final reflection portion of #cyberPD! You have some really important points in your post that I plan to revisit (and perhaps borrow!) I, too, feel like I'm not done with his book yet. So much to continue to think about! <br /><br />My final post is here: http://www.ourcampreadalot.com/2012/08/opening-minds-final-reflection.html<br /><br />Thanks again!<br />LauraLaura Komoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03660151898042277596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-63838252105477390402012-08-01T08:27:59.348-06:002012-08-01T08:27:59.348-06:00Carol,
First of all I want to thank you for sugges...Carol,<br />First of all I want to thank you for suggesting this final #cyberPD post. I appreciate having the opportunity to sit down and try to put all of the learning into some type of coherent final reflection. I'm not sure I managed the "coherent" part, but at least I have moved down the path a bit.<br /><br />I also appreciated your final reflection. I think I should hang this on my door, The root of the word school is the Greek schola meaning leisure. SLOW DOWN!!!! The perfect reminder. I also found it helpful to think about your questions that encourage children to rehearse narrative agendas. <br /><br />My final thoughts are here: http://reflectandrefine.blogspot.com/2012/08/listening-really-listening-cyberpd.html.<br /><br />CathyCathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08233792477358685156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-60796349539338923972012-08-01T08:19:31.739-06:002012-08-01T08:19:31.739-06:00Carol,
Thanks for hosting a wrap-up. Although th...Carol,<br /><br />Thanks for hosting a wrap-up. Although the learning isn't over, it is nice to have a celebration of what we've all learned so far!<br /><br />I connected Johnston's ideas to Gail Tompkins book Literacy for the 21st Century. <br /><br />Here's my thoughts:<br /><br />http://heartofateacher.blogspot.com/2012/08/cyberpd-wrapup-growing-our-thinking.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14984276542187529544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-9599219992064777592012-08-01T07:37:54.935-06:002012-08-01T07:37:54.935-06:00Carol,
What an awesome synthesis of the book. You...Carol,<br /><br />What an awesome synthesis of the book. You have gathered some of my favorite quotes, language and thoughts. My favorite is the quote that you led with about all the roles that our students will play throughout their lives. The language/learning from this book will serve them will in all of those areas. <br /><br />Thanks for hosting today. My thoughts are at: http://myprimarypassion.blogspot.com/2012/08/my-goals-for-2012-2013.html<br /><br />JillJill Fischhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13162764425985636884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-30012080950046568502012-08-01T07:00:31.633-06:002012-08-01T07:00:31.633-06:00Carol, I'm not part of this, but have bought t...Carol, I'm not part of this, but have bought the book & am following along. Thanks for your post & now I'll read the comments too. What a great piece-time to start the walk to this year, I know. I like this quote especially: "The purpose of feedback is to improve conceptual understanding or increase strategic options while developing stamina, resilience, and motivation—expanding the vision of what is possible and how to get there. Perhaps we should call it feedforward, rather than feedback. " I'll remember this, for the future! Thanks!Linda Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14983144542632353870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-29703902833484307312012-08-01T06:43:52.688-06:002012-08-01T06:43:52.688-06:00Carol,
Thank you for hosting this final wrap up....Carol, <br /><br />Thank you for hosting this final wrap up. My post is pretty short -- I touched on a few things I would like to incorporate during the school year. I realize though that I forgot to add a list of the language I want to use. So important. I'm definitely not done going back through the book and finding nuggets to use. I really need more time to process this important read. <br /><br />I will also go back and look to link Johnston's work to the Common Core. I did in a few of my other reflective posts, but I'm sure there are pieces I missed. <br /><br />My post can be found here: http://literacytoolbox.com/literacytoolbox/?p=1721 <br /><br />Thanks again for hosting!<br /><br />DawnDawn Littlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06662047129980003324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-75393664301613991312012-08-01T06:32:22.004-06:002012-08-01T06:32:22.004-06:00Just realized I didn't include the link for th...Just realized I didn't include the link for the "prayer card" post. Here it is if you want it.<br />http://howeprincipal.wordpress.com/2012/07/31/summarizing-a-book-study-with-prayer-cardsCarolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13294455230627182656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-54839004668293879342012-08-01T06:15:19.836-06:002012-08-01T06:15:19.836-06:00Julie,
Thanks for stopping by! Last night, after ...Julie,<br />Thanks for stopping by! Last night, after I put up my post, I read a post about a principal whose staff had just finished a book study. He decided he would create what he called "prayer cards," featuring important things he wanted to remember. His post is here, if you want to read it. Thinking I might want to create a prayer card, or ten, from OPENING MINDS. Love how you synthesized Johnston down into a short poem/meditation. Thinking if I read that every day as I started my day, maybe I would slow down, breathe, make more space for dialogue. Hmmmm.<br /><br />Your comments about your son sound so, so, so similar to those I have heard for years. Wonder what would have happened if teachers had looked at him through the lens of "not yet" instead of "can't/won't/doesn't." He graduated this year, headed off to a junior college 900 miles away, and is living in an apartment, cooking his own meals, buying books for school, etc. and seems to be doing fine. I've been really working at giving him process oriented feedback all summer.<br />I hope you will create a blog! I'd love to continue these conversations and would definitely be a follower. If you use blogspot, it is super easy! And there are lots of us willing to help! Try it today!Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13294455230627182656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7724394291330902141.post-86786495206498658422012-08-01T05:22:42.431-06:002012-08-01T05:22:42.431-06:00Hi Carol,
We are on the edge of something in educ...Hi Carol,<br /><br />We are on the edge of something in education, aren’t we? No longer the authority, no longer the sage on the stage, no longer the only thinker in the room. And we will make mistakes, there is no doubt. But Carol, your synthesis of Johnston’s work assures me that we are on the right track. We do need to figure out what his ideas look like for us in our work with kids and teachers and parents. Many of your thoughts overlap with mine. I, too, am a coach and so I am thinking about how I speak to teachers, how I listen to teachers, and how I give them feedback. What kind of world do I help construct for my teachers by the words that I use with them? Yesterday, I met with a young teacher to discuss our foray into a global project. We talked, she talked and I listened, or I hope I did. Opening Minds was sitting on the table at my elbow reminding me to be quiet, listen harder, think about the feedback, choose my words carefully, and pushing me to slow down. Breathe girl, breath. <br />John Hattie’s research published in Visible Learning (2009) provides the evidence that feedback is one of the top ten factors to have the greatest effect size in student achievement. Johnston’s work gives us the ‘why’ of that impact. I need to remember to provide feedback that is positive, not simply praise; on intention, not on getting it right. As a coach, I am always interested in leverage, and Johnston states unequivocally that feedback is “the point of most leverage” (p. 34). And like you Carol, I have a son that struggled in high school regardless of my interventions. As parents, we have influence, but teachers should never underestimate the level of influence we have. The idea of ‘yet’ could not penetrate the consciousness of his teachers. He did not fit into the box of the ‘academic student’, and they could not think of him (or any kids like him) in terms of yet. One teacher summed up her response to kids like him in this way, “You can tell what mark a student will get by the way he stands for Oh Canada.” He never heard her say that, but kids don’t have to ‘hear’ our words. They feel them. It is no surprise then that he spent his high school years reflecting back to his teachers what he saw, heard, and felt. This is feedback, too. <br />My list of quotes and the language that I need to learn to use is similar to yours, too. I am thinking that I will distill them both down to fit on a ‘bookmark’ that 1) I can have with me and 2) I can reproduce as my colleagues’ interest becomes piqued. (And it will be as they hear me stutter and stammer into this new language!!) I think that this will not happen quickly, rather the language that I need in my work will emerge overtime. I will have to work hard at being patient with myself.<br />Here are the ideas that surface when I try to talk about Opening Minds in the early days of processing it.<br /><br />on Opening Minds, first read<br /><br />Listen.<br />Create space and time for dialogue.<br />This means<br /> —slow down.<br />No rushing in with the answer,<br />allow uncertainty to feed wonder and discovery.<br />Make room for confusion in conversation.<br />Give it permission to spur dialogue,<br /> to build collaborative thinking<br /> to create knowledge <br /> together.<br />Remember that teaching changes worlds.<br />How will I know?<br />Listen to the students. What are they talking about?<br />There is the answer. <br /><br />Carol thanks so much for hosting this last session. I, too, needed one more week to read blogs and process, and I very much appreciate this opportunity to get it out ‘on paper’. Thanks too to Laura, Jill, and Cathy. This has been my first virtual book study, and I loved the experience. The openness and generosity of all the participants is to each other and to newcomers is refreshing. The thinking and the writing has been inspiring. I hope by next summer, I can join #cyberPD with my own blogAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673579851516502643noreply@blogger.com